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Contents


Rules
Challenge Parameters
Change Log



Rules


The Basic Concept

The Random Legacy Challenge is a 10-generation legacy-style challenge which is defined by its randomly-generated parameters governing careers, types of marriage, number of children, and even more aspects of the game, that each generation must follow. No two Random Legacies are ever the same, and even the luckiest rolls are impossible to plan for more than a generation in advance, due to the fact that each new generation's rolls are only calculated as that generation is born. If formulaic challenge strategy bores you and long-term thinking bogs you down, this is the challenge for you!

There are six categories(designated A-F) that must be rolled for in each generation. The heir should roll for a primary career under category C, and all spouses and helpers should roll for a secondary career under category D. To roll, I recommend you use a site such as random.org, though a full set of tabletop RPG dice(d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20) work well in a pinch if you're creative.


Getting Started

1. Create a new game. You should not play the random legacy challenge in a world that you've already been playing, it's important to start off with a blank slate.

2. Set aging to normal and turn aging on for inactive families. If you find a mod that adjusts lifestage lengths, you can use it, as long as the total number of days is roughly the same as you would get under normal aging. Story progression mods, when they emerge, are acceptable to use in order to keep your neighborhood populated, but this challenge will not work with rotation-style play.

3. Roll generation 1 parameters on tables A, B, C, D(if applicable, once for each spouse and helper), E and F.

4. Create your founder(and spouse/helpers if applicable) in CAS. You may choose any genders, ages, appearances, traits, aspirations, and family relationships that you want(provided that you're not required to randomize through a parameter), though you may not create any of the children. The only condition is that the heir must be at least a young adult.

5. Move the family into any empty lot you want. It doesn't matter whether it's blank or it contains a pre-built house. It is recommended that you pay some attention to the neighborhood features(such as fishing or play areas that are accessible without traveling to another lot), but otherwise the choice is up to you. You may pick your own lot traits, if allowed by your starting parameters.

6. Have fun!


Full Rules

1. This challenge runs for 10 generations. You will create the 1st generation in CAS(as described under Getting Started), and the challenge ends when the 10th generation has completed their goals and the 11th generation's heir has come of age.

2. If you fail any of the parameters(such as by not having enough children, missing the goal, violating a fun objective, and so on), you lose. If you failed because of a game bug or because a sim autonomously rebelled, you don't instantly lose, but you should be careful to avoid sim misbehavior happening in the future. Once or twice in the generation is a mistake, but once or twice a week is too much. If a rule changes mid-legacy, you are not bound by it until your next generation begins, though you may begin abiding by it earlier if you want.

3. No cheating is allowed! This includes money cheats, skill cheats, relationship cheats, motive cheats, and any mods that give you a clear advantage over another player. In addition, you should avoid exploits and sneaky loopholes in game mechanics. Moving objects around with the player cursor is not considered cheating. Of course, if your game gets into a bugged state, you can do whatever you have to, including cheating, to get it back in a playable state, provided you do your best to erase any benefit you've gained.

4. During this challenge, heirs, spouses and helpers may only make money from the actions permitted to them under the parameters rolled for that generation, though they may begin doing so as early as childhood. In addition, other sims in the household may not assist them in their careers(such as many sims digging up collectables and giving them to the collector sim to sell), nor can they directly sell efforts from previous generations(planting perfect fruit from a previous generation to get better produce off the bat is okay, a painter selling their hobbyist mother's collection of paintings is not okay). Retiring as an elder is okay, but if you're affected by the bug that gives two pension payments each sim day(you'll know because you get two pop-ups), you must cheat the extra payment away somehow. You can't keep the money.

5. There are a few money making exceptions, actions which may be done freely. These include: selling childhood drawings made on the activity table, using the NanoCan Touchless Trash Can, and selling duplicate penpal postcards received while collecting. Please do not exploit this allowance, because it's only allowed to relieve tedium associated with tracking and removing so many tiny gains in wealth. Exploits would be things like having all children, regardless of aspiration, spend their entire childhood simply drawing and selling pictures, or having a sim repeatedly take a bite of a plate of food and then scrape what's left into the garbage to “farm” the can.

6. You may not immediately sell reward objects you receive from promotions and gaining medals for social events, including dates. You may use them in your household, delete them, or banish them to the household inventory. It's not a huge deal if you use them in your household and then delete them some weeks later during a remodeling, especially as you've paid bills on them the entire time, but you should make an effort not to immediately turn around and use them as extra bonus income.

7. Regarding teen part-time jobs, only heirs and spares who will remain in the household as helpers are allowed to take them. This rule may change if it turns out to be too much, as the game is new and I'm not sure how much income really comes from those, though it looks rather high.

8. Sims may not be aged up early. You must wait until you get the announcement that it's their birthday and the little bubble shimmers appear on their age bar before you can celebrate their birthday. For babies, you should wait at least until the morning after you get the announcement that it's their birthday(which has always come in the late evening for me, please let me know if it's different for you). In addition, legacy sims must wait the full four days for their pregnancies to come to term – this means no using the pregnancy test, as this shaves up to 24 hours off of the pregnancy timer! You may use the pregnancy test for non-helper spares, such as when doing manual story progression(see #12 below).

9. Traits and aspirations do not have to be randomly generated, unless you roll that as a parameter. See the Aspirations section below for more information, including help for picking parameter-compatible aspirations for your sims.

10. The heir may be any sim that you want, provided they were born to or adopted by the previous generation's heir. While children of helpers, provided they are raised in the household, count towards the total number of children for the generation, they are not eligible to become the next heir. If you'd like a little more fun in choosing your heirs, see the Choosing an Heir section below.

11. The next generation's heir comes of age when they age up to YA. At that point, you are officially in that heir's generation, though restrictions from the previous generation continue to apply until that generation is complete. To complete a generation, all parameter goals must be completed and the next generation's heir must have come of age. Unless stated otherwise, all goals and fun objectives begin when the heir comes of age and end when the heir's generation is complete. Once a generation is complete, sims of that generation(including the heir, spouse and any helpers) may move out, though this is not required to happen immediately. However, all sims of a given generation must have either left this mortal coil or have moved out by the time their grandchildren come of age. For example, a sim who was part of generation 1 may remain in the household until the generation 3 heir comes of age, but at that point they must move out.

12. Spares must be moved out of the house within 24 hours of aging to YA. You may not play other households in town, including spares, with the exception of briefly taking control only long enough to try for baby and take a pregnancy test, in order to ensure cousins for your legacy family. If you're away from your main household for more than 2-3 sim hours, you're taking too long. Using other methods such as DIY Story Progression is preferred.

13. You may create spouses and helpers for heirs, but their traits must be randomized and they may not be moved directly into the legacy household. You must first move them into their own home, or with another family, and then have your sim locate them in town and befriend or romance them as required, until they get the option to ask them to move in. It's okay to choose their aspiration, unless it's required to be randomized this generation due to a parameter.

14. Sometimes the dice just hate you, and doing the same thing multiple generations in a row isn't always fun. If you roll the same career for multiple sims in a generation, or roll the same career, goal or fun in two consecutive generations, you may re-roll that parameter. This does not apply to careers rolled through Career Hopper(only Career Hopper roll itself), and you are not required to re-roll, but the option is there if you'd like to take it.

15. Aspiration rewards are unrestricted, except for the potions. No potions may be purchased except for the young again potion. To begin, you may only purchase the young again potion once, so make it count. When your generation 6 heir comes of age, you gain a second purchase. This means that if you save your first purchase, at the halfway point you will now have two purchases left.

16. When moving sims into the family(for spouses or helpers), you may not keep any funds they bring in with them. Use the "testingcheats on" and "money x", where x is the amount you want to set household funds to, to remove any unwanted money that comes along with sims.

17. While there is a separate career roll to run a retail store, you may operate a retail store to sell your crafted goods as long as you've rolled a career that allows you to sell them normally. This store may only sell those items, however, and such "optional" retail careers don't count as professions for the purposes of rule #18. If you have City Living, operating a vendor table or display wall counts as a retail store for the purposes of both the retail store career roll and "optional" retail careers. However, if you choose to operate one of these vendor tables, it does not count as a profession even if you have rolled the retail career, as due to its portable nature you can set up anywhere.

18. Some careers have been tagged as "professions" because they require you to switch view to a sim on another loaded lot. These careers are extremely difficult to succeed in if you are attempting to play more than one sim in a profession at a time. Consequently, you may re-roll one(or two, if you've gotten 3 in the same generation) of your profession rolls if this happens.

19. Concerning clubs, some restrictions must go in place in order to make them non-cheaty:
* Family clubs are okay, but see the next point below.
* Club gatherings should not be constantly active. Gatherings should only be active when club members are actively performing club activities together.
* Club activities should not be mundane tasks that your sims would perform anyway, such as sleeping or cleaning your house. If you want to include these tasks, you must be creative and come up with a way that they could be worked into a gathering, rather than simply being everyday life. For example, a club that meets at a different member's house each week to have a sleepover would be okay, likewise for a club of traveling maids that visits different lots around the neighborhood looking for messes to scour, but a club that meets at your house whenever all the appliances are dirty and cleans them for you would not be okay.
* Crafts(paintings, food, drinks, etc) created during your club gatherings may be consumed, viewed, or otherwise used during the gathering(unless otherwise restricted) but must be thrown away or otherwise deleted without profit immediately after the gathering is over.
* Club activities may not be changed more than once every sim week. Having a club grow with your sims is one thing, but tailoring the club to whatever they have to do on a given day is not allowed.

20. A single wishing well may be purchased and used, but only on your residential lot - if you purchase a wishing well for a community lot, it is for decoration only. You may not wish on it. In addition, certain wishes are limited. You may not wish for Wealth at any time. You may wish for Youthful Vigor, but the wish counts as one of your two young again potion purchases, regardless of outcome! Yes, even if you get aged up, it counts! So, wish carefully. You also may not wish for anything that advances your generation goals. For example, if you have Perfect Careers, you may not wish for Promotion. If you have Perfect Children, they may not wish for Grades or Romance. Wishing for a Child is allowed, and children obtained through that wish count towards your number of children for the generation. However, if you obtain a ghost child, you must turn that child into a real sim in order to complete your number of children goal for that generation.

21. You may choose your own lot traits when moving into lots, unless otherwise noted, but once they're chosen you may not change them unless directed to by a challenge parameter. Moving house mainly for the purpose of getting to pick better parameters for your current generation is considered cheating. If you're ever in doubt, feel free to determine your lot traits randomly - this will always be okay, even if you move every single generation.

22. Regarding supernatural sims, so far aliens and vampires appear to be balanced for game play. Feel free to use vampires, aliens, and their associated powers in your random legacy stories, but keep in mind that immortal sims may not remain in the legacy household forever(see rule #11).


Aspirations

I toyed with making the aspirations random, but decided that it was too disruptive(say you rolled a mixologist with the author aspiration, that's just frustrating). However, to make up for getting to choose the aspiration, once that aspiration is chosen you can't switch it out if you get tired of it. If you move in a spouse or helper with a weird aspiration, you can change it once immediately upon moving them in, but then that's what you're stuck with until they complete it.

Some aspirations require you to make a great deal of money in an area that may not have been rolled for the generation, or may require more children than your sim is allowed to have. To aid in aspiration choice, here's a list of all aspirations listed with the conditions they require in order to be utilized to their full potential.

Aspirations with no restrictions:
Athletic(Bodybuilder) – No restriction
Creativity(Musical Genius) – No restriction, may license just enough songs to earn $500 for milestone III
Creativity(Painter Extraordinaire) – No restriction, may sell only the 3 paintings required for milestone II
Destination(City Native) - No restriction, may enter contests until you win one for the final step, and if you have rolled Homemade you may eat three(and only three) food stall meals.
Deviance(Chief of Mischief) – No restriction
Fortune(Fabulously Wealthy) – No restriction
Fortune(Mansion Baron) – No restriction
Knowledge(Nerd Brain) – No restriction
Knowledge(Nerd Brain) – No restriction
Nature(Angling Ace) – No restriction
Nature(Freelance Botanist) - No restriction
(OR) Nature(Outdoor Enthusiast) - No restriction
Nature(The Curator) – No restriction
Popularity(Friend of the World) – No restriction
Popularity(Party Animal) – No restriction

Aspirations with restrictions:
Creativity(Bestselling Author) – Writer(Author) or Freelance Author. Writer(Journalist), Culinary(Chef), Culinary(Mixologist) or Freelance Comedian are possible but difficult.
Deviance(Public Enemy) – Criminal(any)
Family(Big Happy Family) – Must have at least 3 children
Family(Successful Lineage) – Must not be a deadbeat parent
Food(Master Chef) – Culinary(any)
Food(Master Mixologist) – Culinary(Mixologist)
Knowledge(Computer Whiz) – Tech Guru(any), may make 1 video game or app for milestone III.
Knowledge(Renaissance Sim) – Career Hopper
Love(Soulmate) – Must marry


Choosing an Heir

There's a few more involved methods that you may use to choose an heir, if you want. These include: random chance, succession law, random succession law, random varying succession law and heir vote.

1. Random Chance: Roll a number between 1 and X, X being the number of children allowed this generation. The number you get is the child who will be your heir.

2. Succession Law: Pinstar wrote up a list of mix-and-match rules that can be used to define your own succession law, that should be followed for every generation. Do not use the strict eligibility options, as they're not compatible with the limited number of children allowed in this challenge. Merit and Exemplar from the last category might prove troublesome as well, with certain parameters.

3. Random Succession Law: As above, except roll randomly in each category to determine the law you'll follow.

4. Varying Random Succession Law: As above, except roll a new succession law as if it was a new parameter each generation.

5. Heir Vote: If you're blogging your legacy, put your heir choice up as a vote. If you choose this option, you may, if you choose, roll a different set of parameters for each child, as the choice of which to follow will be out of your hands.


Allowed Mods

MC Controller
Get to School
Turbo Careers (currently incompatible)

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Challenge Parameters


A) Marital Status: 1-25

1-5: Single - Your heir may not have a live-in partner after the first child is born. Any extra sims must be moved out of the house by 24 hours after the first child is born. A male heir may move in a female partner for the course of any pregnancies, but the 24 hour rule applies and she may not contribute financially. Partners that have moved out are not allowed to lurk around the house to help out with toddler care, and must be removed if they will not leave.

6-15: Couple - Your heir must obtain a romantic live-in partner. They do not have to be married.

16: Mixed Single - Children must be a mix of naturally-born and adopted. If you have rolled to have only one child, you may have a second to satisfy this parameter.

17: Mixed Couple

18: Second Chance - Your heir must obtain two live-in partners during the course of the generation. At least one child must be born or adopted with the first partner.

19: Single w/ Help - A non-romantic helper sim must live in the house. The helper sim can be anything you desire, from a friend of the family to a spare who decides to stick around.

20: Mixed Single w/ Help

21: Couple w/ Help

22: Mixed Couple w/ Help

23: Single w/ 2 Help - The same as single with help, except there's two helpers. The helpers may be romantically involved with each other.

24: Mixed Single w/ 2 Help

25: Full House - The same as single with 2 help, except there's three helpers.


B) Number of Children: 1-10

1-2: 1
3-6: 2
7-8: 3
9: 4
10: 5


C) Primary Career: 1-10

1-6: Conventional Career (roll C1)

7-9: Unconventional Career (roll C2)

10: Career Hopper – Must roll for five conventional careers. You may jump between these careers as you wish, so long as you have spent a day at work in at least three by the time your sim becomes a full adult, and all five by the time your sim becomes an elder.


C1) Conventional Careers: 1-29

1: Entertainer(Musician) - No additional money-making opportunities.

2: Entertainer(Comedian) - May perform comedy in space.

3: Writer(Author) – May publish all book genres.

4: Writer(Journalist) - May publish all book genres(self-publishing), and write articles.

5: Painter(Master of the Real) – May sell crafted paintings and call agent to collect money.

6: Painter(Patron of the Arts) – May sell crafted paintings and call agent to collect money.

7: Secret Agent(Diamond Agent) - No additional money-making opportunities.

8: Secret Agent(Villain) - No additional money-making opportunities.

9: Criminal(Boss) - May pickpocket sims.

10: Criminal(Oracle) – May pickpocket sims. May hack and create viruses.

11: Astronaut(Space Ranger) – May go on space missions with the rocket ship.

12: Astronaut(Smuggler) – May go on space missions with the rocket ship.

13: Culinary(Chef) - May publish cookbooks(self-publishing).

14: Culinary(Mixologist) – May publish bar guides(self-publishing).

15: Tech Guru(eSport Gamer) – No additional money-making opportunities.

16: Tech Guru(Start-up Entrepeneur) – No additional money-making opportunities.

17: Athlete(Bodybuilder) - No additional money-making opportunities.

18: Athlete(Pro Athlete) - No additional money-making opportunities.

19: Business(Management) - No additional money-making opportunities.

20: Business(Investor) - May invest in stocks.

21: (GTW) Doctor - No additional money-making opportunities. This career counts as a profession.

22: (GTW) Detective - No additional money-making opportunities. This career counts as a profession.

23: (GTW) Scientist - No additional money-making opportunities. This career counts as a profession.

24: (CL) Critic(Art Critic) - No additional money-making opportunities.

25: (CL) Critic(Food Critic) - If you have rolled Homemade, your food critic(and only your food critic) may eat out for food review purposes. No additional money-making opportunities.

26: (CL) Politician(Charity Organizer) - No additional money-making opportunities.

27: (CL) Politician(Politician) - May ask for bribes.

28: (CL) Social Media(Internet Personality) - May advertise on your social media page.

29: (CL) Social Media(Public Relations) - No additional money-making opportunities.


C2) Unconventional Careers - 1-18

1: Freelance Painter - Paint whatever you want whenever you want and sell it to collectors.

2: Freelance Author - Write and publish whatever you want whenever you want.

3: Freelance Musician - Play a musical instrument of your choice in public to earn money from tips. You may also sell jingles and license songs you've written. If you have City Living, singing counts as an instrument.

4: Gardener - Plant, harvest and sell produce and flowers of all kinds.

5: Fishersim - Sell whatever you can manage to catch.

6: Treasure Hunter - Dig up those little weird rocky-looking things and sell what you find. You may also sell the little treasures(aka, unwanted upgrade parts) that you dig out of your household plumbing, electronics and appliances. Collecting and breeding frogs is also allowed, as is collecting and selling insects(OR). Selling collectibles you've traded for at the flea market is allowed.

7: Carpenter - Use the woodcrafting bench to make and sell furniture, as well as complete woodcrafting projects.

8: Freelance Comedian – Use the microphone to perform comedy routines and publish comedy books(self-publishing).

9: Freelance Programmer – Use your programming skills on the computer for a variety of tasks, including creating apps, creating plugins and freelance work.

10: Space Explorer – Build your own rocket and take to the stars, selling what you bring back from your travels.

11: Professional Gamer – Create computer games(programming 9), livestream and compete in gaming tournaments to earn money.

12: Cybercriminal – Create viruses and hack for money.

13: Professional Host/Hostess – Host social gatherings of all kinds and sell the rewards you earn for money.

14: (OR) Remedy Brewer - Brew herbal remedies and sell them for profit.

15: (GTW) Freelance Photographer - Take and sell photographs.

16: (GTW or CL) Retail Owner - Manage a retail store that does not sell anything that's covered by any of the other options above. For example, you could have a store that sells food you've cooked, but you could not sell raw produce at that store unless you had another sim in the household that rolled Gardener. Alternately, you may also choose to operate one of the vendor tables or display walls that come with City Living. This career counts as a profession, unless you choose to operate a vendor table/display wall in lieu of a real store.

17: (GT) DJ - Work as a DJ to earn tips, and license your mixtapes.

18: (DO) Restauranteur - Manage your own restaurant. This career counts as a profession.


D) Secondary Careers: 1-10

1-3: Conventional Career (roll C1)

4-8: Unconventional Career (roll C2)

9: Career Hopper - Must roll for five conventional careers. You may jump between these careers as you wish, so long as you have spent a day at work in at least three by the time your sim becomes a full adult, and all five by the time your sim becomes an elder.

10: Unemployed


E) Generation Goals – 1-17

1: Perfect Careers - The heir, spouse, and helpers must reach level 10 in their careers. Re-roll if no conventional careers are rolled this generation.

2: Fulfilled - The heir and spouse(if applicable) must complete their first aspiration. If the spouse is accidentally too old when they move in to have time to complete an aspiration, they are not required to do so, but try to be reasonable with this provision.

3: Perfect Children - All children born this generation must complete their childhood aspiration and receive an B grade in elementary school and an A grade in high school. They should also have a BFF made during childhood, and at least one boyfriend or girlfriend lasting at least 24 sim hours during their teen years. As toddlers, they must reach level 3 in all skills, including potty training, and raise at least one skill to level 5.

4: Dependable - Your heir, spouse and helpers must complete all daily tasks for school and work, beginning in childhood or upon move-in to the house. You may use vacation days given by the game to skip school or work if you're not going to be able to handle the task, but you may not skip if you have no vacation, or without using your vacation, or attend without having your daily task completed(even if you have saved vacation). Re-roll if no non-profession conventional careers are rolled this generation.

5: Expansionist - You must construct a significant expansion to the house this generation. You may also add or change a single lot trait, if you wish. If Random is your miscellaneous fun this generation, the trait changed and new trait must be randomly determined.

6: Collector - Your heir, spouse, helpers and children must complete and display one of the collections. All items must be found or grown that generation, and for plants you may not use seeds from previous generations...find your own! If you already completed part of a collection in a previous generation, you can choose that collection, but you must collect the objects you already have again with a sim from this generation. Collections and display requirements are as follows:
Frogs – Anything
Gardening – Must be planted and grown to maturity, may be of any quality. May not be grafted into tomato/onion/basil plants to count as all three, you must have one plant for each collectable.
MySims Trophies – Anything
Metals – Anything
Crystals – Anything
Elements – Elemental Display Rack
Insects - Anything
Postcards – Bunchapals Postcard Corkboard
Fossils – Anything
Microscope Prints – Anything
Space Prints – Anything
Aliens – Anything
Space Rocks – Anything
Fish – Any combination of bowls and mounting

7: Deadbeat Parents - The heir, spouse and helpers may not help their children this generation, apart from basic needs like food and interaction(autonomous chatting over dinner). This includes helping with homework, mentoring or encouraging children in skills, and reading books to them. For toddlers, it is permitted to provide basic care such as food and diaper changes, but try to avoid any parent-child interactions that raise a skill bar, such as flash cards, reading books, potty training, and so on. Some autonomous talking is okay - the parents are deadbeat, not abusive - but don't deliberately train the communication skill. Children may teach themselves.

8: Change of Scenery - It's moving time! At some point after the heir comes of age, you must either move to a new lot, or completely demolish the entire house and start over from scratch on your current lot. Your new lot may not share any lot traits with your old lot. If Random is your miscellaneous fun this generation, the new lot's traits must be randomly determined. Re-roll if it's generation 1.

9: Party King/Party Queen - Host every kind of party(house, dinner, wedding, birthday) with a gold medal in each. If you have more than four party types(through expansions, DLC or mods), roll to randomly determine the four party types that you will be attempting for this goal, re-rolling any duplicates.

10: Idle Careers - May not make an effort to advance in your heir's, helper's and spouse's careers, including school. If the career goals happen to line up with aspirational goals, that's a happy coincidence, because you may advance in aspiration freely. Autonomous actions are also acceptable. If you've rolled an unconventional career that has no tasks that sims will perform autonomously, you may only perform tasks for it if your sim has a whim to do it or if they do them autonomously.

11: Friendship is Forever – Beginning when the heir is a child, they must make one new good friend every week. This friendship must be maintained through subsequent weeks, and may only be ended by the death of the friend.

12: Midlife Crisis - This generation, one of the heir, spouses(including second chances) or helpers will experience a randomly-generated midlife crisis event. Between when this generation is rolled and when the first of the eligible sims reaches the adult lifestage(not YA), determine who will go through the crisis. If you have not picked someone before the first sim reaches adulthood, or is moved in as an adult, that sim will be the one. Once the selected sim reaches adulthood(and not sooner!), roll three times to determine three aspects to the midlife crisis from the chart below, re-rolling if you receive a duplicate. Each aspect has a deadline which it must either be completed or started during. The goal is complete when all aspects have been completed.
1) Re-roll Miscellaneous Fun(complete within 24 hours) - Your Miscellaneous Fun roll will change. It takes effect immediately, with weekly tasks starting the following Sunday.
2) Randomize a trait(complete within 24 hours) - Randomly determine which of your sim's traits will change, then use a cheat to remove that trait, replacing it with another that has been randomly determined.
3) Re-roll Career(complete within 24 hours) - Re-roll your sim's career. This means a new primary career if it's the heir, and a new secondary career if it's a spouse or spare.
4) Make a major purchase(complete within 24 hours) - Buy something shiny and expensive(relative to how much wealth you have) for your house.
5) Have a romantic crisis(start within 48 hours) - Your sim's love life is thrown into turmoil. Perhaps they meet a new lover, cheat on their spouse, or simply have a falling out with a long-time partner. This must begin within 48 hours, but doesn't have to resolve ever.
6) Change style to recapture youth(complete within 24 hours) - Your sim must change their style(mirror and dresser, CAS cheats if necessary) to recapture their youth. Perhaps even get a tattoo. They can change back after a period of a few days if they want.
7) Gain a new skill(complete within 1 week) - Your sim must gain at least 5 skill levels in a skill they haven't used much previously. This counts from the level they're currently at, so if a sim has level 2 charisma, they must attain level 7.
8) Have a child(complete within 1 week) - Your sim must either have a biological child or adopt a child. Either way, it will be raised with the rest of the generation's children. Add one child to the number of children you will have this generation.
9) Randomize Aspiration(complete within 24 hours) - Randomly pick a new aspiration for your sim, throwing out any that are incompatible with your other rolls. If you also have to re-roll your sim's career, use the new career when determining aspiration compatibility.

13: Memorial - The heir, along with any spouses or helpers, must be memorialized this generation, by a sim with maxed skill in the relevant crafting skill(painting, photography or writing). Memorials may consist of: a painted portrait, a photograph, a biography, or a book of life. Each memorial can be crafted by a different sim if you want, and they don't have to all be the same type, though they should all be displayed together.

14: Themed Display - This generation, the heir, spouses and helpers should create a themed display somewhere in their house or yard. The display must contain at least 10 items, plant and craft level excellent or higher, from at least two different collections or craft disciplines, and must contain at least one craft and one collected item. For example, a display with 3 plants, 5 photographs and 2 space rocks would be okay, but a display with 4 photographs and 6 paintings would not be, because there is no collected item. The theme is left up to you, examples include: space(telescope prints and photographs of the alien home world), botany(plants, photographs of plants, and microscope prints of plants), flowers(plants and paintings of plants in the wild) and animals(frogs, insects and photographs of insects in the wild).

15: Haunted House - From the time the heir comes of age to the time the heir dies, three sims must die an unnatural death on your home lot. Unnatural death is defined as any death except by old age, and the sims may be members of your household(such as unneeded spouses, spares that are about to move out, or even the heir themselves) or guests. Furthermore, the graves must stay on your home lot, and the ghosts be allowed to roam the house freely. The graves may be removed after this generation's heir dies.

16: (GT) Best Club Ever - Your heir must start their own club from scratch this generation. To complete this goal, the following criteria must be met concurrently:
* The club must have 8 members. Sims may not join the club unless they are already friends with the club leader, so get to recruiting!
* The club must have a hangout built specially for them, either on your home lot or on a community lot. The hangout should contain enough seating for the entire club and any necessary items to complete club activities. If you build on a community lot from the map view, take note of how much money you "spent" on the hangout and subtract it from your family's funds.
* The club should have all ranks of one of the emotional vibes purchased, depending on the club's focus. Happy counts.
* The club door perk must be unlocked(since you have a hangout)
* In addition, three other club spirit perks(hats, jackets, wall decorations, etc) must be unlocked and used.

17: (CL) Domestic Dilemma - When this generation comes of age(or at the start of the game) you must either add a new "negative" trait or replace an existing trait(determine which of the three randomly) with a "negative" trait of your choice(unless you've rolled Random). This generation, you must find a creative way in your story to overcome said negative trait. For example, Quake Zone might be overcome by a sim maxing their writing skill and writing 5 nonfiction bestseller books about earthquake safety, or perhaps by a sim maxing their handiness skill and equipping every appliance/plumbing object in the house with the unbreakable upgrade. Be creative! When the negative trait has been overcome, you may replace it with a trait of your choice if you wish(again, unless you've rolled Random).
Negative traits include:
Cursed
Filthy
Gremlins
Grody
Haunted
Mean Vibe
On a Dark Ley Line
Quake Zone
Vampire Nexus


F) Miscellaneous Fun: 1-23

1: Random - Determine traits and aspirations(including the childhood aspiration) randomly for all sims of this generation(the heir and their siblings). Adult aspirations should be chosen randomly from the list of aspirations, discarding any which are incompatible with other parameters, as stated earlier in the rules. Helpers and Spouses moved in should have their adult aspiration randomized in a similar manner, if you choose to change it. Any lot traits determined this generation, including initial move-in traits, must be random.

2: Partier - Throw at least one party(of any type and rating) every week.

3: Mischief Managed – Your heir must play a successful prank once every week from the time they age into a teen. Pranks include: making a prank call(mischief 3+), clogging drains at other lots(mischief 5+), calling in to play hooky(mischief 6+), sabotaging a rocket ship(mischief 8+), using a stink potion(mental 10+), sabotaging objects and sims(Tormentor reward trait), and any prank options performed with a partner in crime(mischief 4+).

4: Moody - Once a week, your heir and spouse(if applicable) must spend at least 3 consecutive hours in a certain mood, randomly chosen from the following list: inspired, happy, angry, embarrassed, playful, flirty, sad, bored, dazed, confident, focused, tense, uncomfortable. Heir and spouse may have different required moods.

5: Homemade - May not get quick meals from the fridge, order pizza, eat from food stalls or dine out, consume plasma packs, and may only cook meals with ingredients if all ingredients are present. The pre-made toddler meals you can serve from the high chair are considered quick meals.

6: Runs in the Family - Pick a trait from your heir(not a bonus or reward trait). Every child born to your heir must take this trait at the earliest opportunity.

7: Perfect Attendance – From childhood onwards, your heir and helpers must never be more than one hour late to work or school. Similarly, they may not make use of the leave early function. A five-strike allowance is provided for accidental lateness(like if you queue up actions and don't notice that they didn't leave for work), but intentional lateness for playing strategy or the fifth lateness will result in a loss of the challenge. This restriction also applies to the heir's children and any spouses or helpers moved in later. Perfect attendance also applies to the use of vacation days, either while on vacation or for family leave.

8: Fixer Upper - May not call the handyman or purchase new objects if they break this generation. You must fix them. I don't care if you have no handiness skill, if you want to shower today you'll get to work, won't you?

9: Half-Siblings - Sims born this generation must each be with a different partner. Re-roll if you're only having one kid.

10: Fighter - The heir, spouse or a helper(pick one and stick with it) must get in a fight at least once a week.

11: Joker - Free re-roll of one category, now or in a future generation.

12: Health Nut – This generation, sims may only eat healthy food. Healthy food includes: orange juice(quick meal), yogurt(quick meal), garden salad(cooking 1), wellness food, plasma fruit recipes, and your neighbors. In addition, the heir, spouse, helpers, and their children must each spend at least 3 hours each week performing physical activity, such as jogging, swimming, yoga, or playing on the monkeybars.

13: Gourmet – Once every week, the entire family(heir, spouse, and children) must find the time to sit down all at once and enjoy a gourmet meal prepared especially for the occasion. It doesn't matter whether the heir or the spouse prepares the meal, but it must be from the gourmet cooking skill, not the regular cooking skill.

14: Hands Off! - You may not use the “hand of god” to clean up books and so on. Sims must clean up on their own. Selling things from their inventory is okay.

15: Hobbyist – Your heir and spouse(if applicable) must each pick a hobby activity(such as painting, playing chess, jogging, fishing, etc) that is unrelated to their rolled career and devote at least 3 hours every sim week to practicing that activity. They may not use the activity to make money.

16: My Precious - When your sim finds something they like, it's hard for them to let it go. Pick one of the options below to build a collection over the course of your heir's lifetime. The collection must be displayed somewhere on the legacy lot, so it may not be kept in an inventory, until the generation is complete.
A) I finds it, it's mine - At least once a week, your sim must go out and find a unique object to add to their collection(pick a single category: frogs, MySims Trophies, metals, crystals, elements, fossils, aliens, space rocks or fish). You may not display duplicates. If you have found one of every item and the generation isn't complete yet, pick a new collection to begin.
B) So bright, so beautiful, my precious - Once a week, your sim must purchase something beautiful and shiny from the decorations tab in buy mode. This should be something that exists only to look awesome, and should be displayed all together(or as trophy centerpieces in each room or something), not decor that "blends in" such as toilet paper rolls in the bathroom or a pan rack in the kitchen. If your sim is insane and decides to build a "bathroom shrine" in their living room, that's totally legit, but it should be done to add to the story, not just because you couldn't be bothered to find a better idea than buying misc decorations for your bathrooms to fulfill this fun.

17: Vacationer - At least one sim from the household must go on vacation at least once every sim week. If you don't have the OR game pack use the following alternate rule since that sim can't go on an actual vacation. They must use at least one vacation day from work, and must have a day outing of some sort, lasting for most of the day(you know the kind you'd take in real life, leaving after breakfast and arriving back home in the evening), on their day off. This doesn't have to be the same sim every week.

18: (GT) Clubber - Starting from childhood or the time they join the household, the heir and every spouse/helper must belong to a club, attending a meeting at least once a week. They do not have to belong to the same club, though they can if you want. If you choose to use a household club, please keep in mind the rules about how to avoid making clubs cheaty(#19 under the Rules), specifically the ones prohibiting having a constant club gathering running at all times. They must actually get together in a group and do a thing in order to have a club gathering, you can't just run a gathering while they're all sleeping or doing random tasks around the house.

19: On Call - Starting when the heir is a teen, they(or a spouse or helper) must respond to at least one "hang-out" phone call every week. This includes birthday parties and invitations to community lots, but does not include requests to come hang out at your home lot - you must actually leave your home lot for this to count.

20: Town Explorer - Starting when the heir is a teen, they(or a spouse or helper) must visit a unique community lot every week, for at least 3 hours. The community lots may not be repeated to count for this, though you may visit them again just for fun.

21: (DO) Regular Diner - Once a week, the entire household must go out to eat at a restaurant. All three courses and something to drink should be ordered.

22: (CL) Festival Frequenter - Every time there is a festival, at least one household member must attend the festival for at least one sim hour. This doesn't have to be the same household member each time.

23: (CL) Flea Market Fanatic - Some sims just can't pass up a great bargain. Why would you pay full price for anything? This generation, you may not purchase certain categories of items from the catalog. These items may only be purchased from the flea market or from unplayable sims selling their own goods on the street. Paintings left on public easels count.
The categories are:
Comfort(except beds)
Lighting
Decorations(except mirrors)

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#3 Old 11th Sep 2014 at 10:50 PM Last edited by tigger89 : 31st Jan 2017 at 12:36 AM.
Change Log


9/11/14: Posted the challenge! Woo-hoo! It's still in testing a bit, I've starred every career that hasn't been tested and included a note on what to do if you get one of them. If you do get one of them, please let me know what you discover. Also, if you discover any ways of making money that haven't been accounted for, let me know again and we'll get them added into the unconventional careers.

9/13/14: First round of fixes:
1. Added selling duplicate penpal postcards to the list of allowed activities, as the income gained is apparently low and it doesn't fit in with anything else right now.
2. Added the option to self-publish books to both branches of the Writer career.
3. Changed "woodworker" career to be "carpenter" just because.
4. Added notes to re-roll the dependable or perfect careers goals if nobody this generation has a conventional career.

9/24/14: So many things:
1. Made another pass through the aspirations list, I think I got all of my "more?" and "check?" notes removed. Nature aspirations are doable with any rolls, however you will have to mass-delete(or sell and cheat the money away) massive amounts of collectables if you choose to pursue them - you've been warned. Let me know if you see anything funky here.
2. Added a link to the awesome random.org
3. Bringing in money when you move sims into the family(for spouses or help) is no longer allowed. Use the "testingcheats on" and "money x", where x is the amount you want to set household funds to, to remove any unwanted money that sims bring with them. If you've already benefited from this in your legacy, don't worry about making it right, just avoid it in the future.
4. Finalized allowed money-making activities for the following conventional careers: criminal(oracle), criminal(boss), culinary(chef), entertainer(comedian), entertainer(musician) and writer(journalist).
5. Tweaked the unconventional careers around. Made Freelance Musician and Freelance Comedian slightly more awesome, and merged Master of Frogs with Treasure Hunter for now. If your sim was a Master of Frogs, they are now a Treasure Hunter.
6. Altered the deadbeat parents goal to be more specific. Parents may not use the mentor or encourage interactions on their children to help them skill, help them with their homework, or read books to them.
7. Altered the Party King/Queen goal to allow for extra party types introduced in expansions/DLC and mods(like the destination party mod). You now still only have to host the 4 parties, picking randomly from your available options if you have more than 4 choices. More fair for everyone!
8. Altered the Perfect Children goal. Children now only require a B in school, and teens require an A.
9. Added a new goal: Midlife Crisis
10. Added a new fun: My Precious

9/26/14: Added note to rule #4:
"Retiring as an elder is okay, but if you're affected by the bug that gives two pension payments each sim day(you'll know because you get two pop-ups), you must cheat the extra payment away somehow. You can't keep the money."

12/25/15: Updated for Spa Day and Get Together:
1. New rule: #19 - Concerning clubs...
2. New goal: (GT) Best Club Ever
3. New goal: Haunted House
4. New fun: (GT) Clubber
5. New fun: On Call
6. New fun: Town Explorer
7. Updated fun: Fixer Upper - may not call the handyman
8. Updated fun: Health Nut - wellness food and activities are considered healthy

12/28/15: Added DJ to unconventional careers.

6/21/16: Updated with wishing wells and restaurants.
1. New rule: #20 - Wishing Wells
2. New career: Restauranteur
3. New fun: Regular Diner

10/27/16: Updated for lot traits. City Living update incoming when I have the expansion and time, possibly not until later in November/early December.
1. New rule: #21 - Lot Traits
2. Updated goal: Expansionist
3. Updated goal: Change of Scenery
4. Updated fun: Random

11/10/16 City Living update part 1, certainly not complete.
1. Added the six new career branches as options.
2. Updated career: Freelance Musician
3. Updated career: Treasure Hunter
4. Added goal: Domestic Dilemma
5. Added goal: Festival Frequenter

12/29/16 City Living update part 2
1. Updated rule #17 to account for vendor tables and the display wall.
2. Added the City Native aspiration to the aspirations list.
3. Finalized the new career branches.
4. Updated career: Retail Owner
5. Updated fun: Homemade
6. Added fun: Flea Market Fanatic

1/30/17 Vampires and Toddlers
1. Updated rule #11 with a new clause about moving old generations out
2. New rule #22 regarding supernaturals
3. Updated marital status: Single
4. Updated goal: Perfect Children
5. Updated goal: Deadbeat Parents
6. Updated goal: Domestic Dilemma
7. Updated fun: Homemade
8. Updated fun: Health Nut

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#4 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 12:49 AM
Alright, I've rolled up an official random legacy family for myself to play, no more of this testing business where I keep accidentally making huge amounts of money by getting distracted with shiny options.



The Katran family, who are normally not near as derptastic(or low quality...eek imgur editing!) as they are in that screenshot, is going to be using a succession law(matriarchy, traditional, random) to determine the heir for all generations. The first generation's rolls are as follows:
Marital Status: Couple
Children: 2
Heir: Writer(Journalist)
Spouse: Unemployed
Goal: Collector(Fish)
Fun: Joker(used to re-roll the goal)

Still haven't decided if I'm going to blog or not. We'll see.

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#5 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 1:20 AM
I ONLY plays Sims with Random Legacy challenge. I find it helps keep me focused so I am not off in 100 different directions. Thank you for posting this so quickly!

My Legacy starts with Amanda Random and her parents Zachary and Zena Random

Generation 1:
marital status: single w 2 help
children: 3
heir: woodcrafter
helper 1 - unemployed
helper 2 - space explorer
fun: idle careers (very hard!)
goal: random (tho I keep traits and most everything random by default)
succession law: matriarchy; modern; living will
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#6 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 2:22 AM
You've managed to reverse your goal and fun btw, but your goal(idle careers) is definitely no piece of cake for generation 1, especially with unconventional careers. I have no idea if any whims are generated for the woodcrafting bench or the space rocket(will you even be able to afford it?). If you've played for a few days and nothing has happened in those departments, we might need to amend the rules to allow something like a single "daily project." The joys of playing in the early days of a challenge! :P

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#7 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 6:10 AM
I just started this! Never really done a random legacy, but I just got the game today (Woo payday!) and, after just goofing off a bit to get the feel for it, I am in love. When I saw this challenge, I knew it would be a wonderful way to get to know the new game and how everything works. Thank you so much for posting this here! I know I'm going to have a ton of fun with it. I'm not huge on blogging, but I may end up doing a tumblr, or at least an imgur album of generational achievements and such.

Here is my founder, Michaela Handy.

My parameters were:
  • Marital status: Mixed single
  • # of Children: 1 (though I will have to do 2 to get the mixed goal)
  • Primary career: Writer/author
  • Generation goal: level 10 in career
  • Miscellaneous fun: hobbyist

I decided to go full random too. I used a random number generator on my phone to pick her features (just did 1-10, because I'm too lazy to count the options for each feature) and left her body at the setting it was at first. Also, the reason I do a 1-10 for looks rather than just randomize it, is because it's more fun for me to pick and choose than let Sims potentially give me a boring pudding face >> I did leave her eyes the color they first loaded as, mostly because I forgot, and for her hair I just let CAS randomly pick it.

Her name was also randomly generated by the game, as well as her outfits for each category.

Thank you again! I'm having fun already xP
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#8 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 11:14 AM Last edited by Eremis : 13th Sep 2014 at 12:41 PM.
I've never had the patience/commitment to do a legacy challenge before, but I feel like I need a goal rather than playing with my open-ended Sim family So I'll try this out!

Marital Status: Mixed Single (What does this mean exactly? D
Children: 4
Primary Career: Astronomer(Smuggler) – May hack once the career branches.
Secondary Career: Fishersim - Sell whatever you can manage to catch.
Generation Goal: Perfect Children - All children born to this generation's heir must complete their childhood aspiration and receive an A grade in both elementary and high school. They should also have a BFF made during childhood, and at least one boyfriend or girlfriend lasting at least 24 sim hours during their teen years.
Fun: Partier - Throw at least one party(of any type and rating) every week.

I have some questions~
Sorry, I'm new to this, but what does Mixed single mean? I know it requires me to have at least one natural born and one adopted child, so basically I wont be living with a partner/spouse, but on my own and luring those baby daddies in to produce heirs then sending them on their way?

Also that generation goal is KILLER. May the sim gods smile upon me :C

Edit: Meet Alexis Archer :D

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#9 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 12:41 PM
Alright, here's my roll!

Marital status: Single
Children: 4
Heir: Freelance Comedian
Secondary career: Master of Frogs
Generational Goal: Dependable (oh shit)
Fun: Partier
Succession law: Strict patriarchy, foster, random

This is gonna be fun

“I MAY BE A HOGWARTS STUDENT" Hargirid paused angrily. "BUT I AM ALSO A SATANIST!”
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#10 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 6:28 PM Last edited by liadegrecia : 13th Sep 2014 at 7:21 PM.
I was soooo waiting for this! Random legacy challenge was the only way I was playing The Sims 3!

My 1st generation.. Meet the Fraser triplets!



From right to left : Makenzie (the actual 1st gen heir), Makinley & Makenna (the helpers)

Here is my roll!

Marital status: Mixed Single with 2 Helpers
Children: 2 (I rolled for 1, but since I need both natural & adopted children, I changed it to 2. I am also choosing my heir randomly)
Primary career: Entertainer (Musician)
Secondary career: Tech Guru (Start up enterpreneur)
2nd Secondary career: Painter (Master of the real)
Generational Goal: Fulfilled
Fun: Hands off

Pretty lucky roll, I guess, with 3 conventional careers..

I also have a question, regarding the fulfilled generation goal. Does it apply to helpers, the same way it does to spouses?

Thank you soo much for spending the time and recreate the challenge for all of us that can't play Sims without it!
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#11 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 6:51 PM
Going to start this as soon as I get finished with work!

Marital Status: Mixed Single
Children: 4 Children
Primary Career: Tech Guru
Generation Goals: Perfect Careers
Random Fun: Health Nut

I also rolled a secondary career but I was a little unsure about that. No helpers and no additional income allowed from the Primary Career... so, out of luck?

This is going to be great! :D
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#12 Old 13th Sep 2014 at 8:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremis
I have some questions~
Sorry, I'm new to this, but what does Mixed single mean? I know it requires me to have at least one natural born and one adopted child, so basically I wont be living with a partner/spouse, but on my own and luring those baby daddies in to produce heirs then sending them on their way?
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Not the creator of the challenge, but a loooong time player using it. But you're correct! You'll be woohooing without your baby daddies being moved in


SO EXCITED to start this! Been waiting for this challenge to come out for Sims 4, as I require it to have fun playing it seems now lol.
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#13 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremis
I have some questions~
Sorry, I'm new to this, but what does Mixed single mean? I know it requires me to have at least one natural born and one adopted child, so basically I wont be living with a partner/spouse, but on my own and luring those baby daddies in to produce heirs then sending them on their way?

You may have a live-in partner, or even a spouse, but you must move them in from the neighborhood, they may not financially contribute, and must leave the house within 24 hours after the birth of the first child. There's no requirements for why or how they leave, that's up to you, but they must make an exit, not to return to the household until the generation is complete, if ever. Or you could kidnap a bunch of baby daddies, it's up to you and your story! Mixed just means that children will be a mix of biological and adopted, yes. It doesn't have to be an equal mix, but you must have at least one of each type.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremis
Also that generation goal is KILLER. May the sim gods smile upon me :C

It's really a tricky one! Let me know if the BFF requirement in childhood is too much, I might move it to teen. However, you should be able to build that much relationship while working on the level 4 social skill requirement, so I think it's achievable. I recommend doing the aspiration/school goals in this order: aspiration level 1, promotion to B grade, aspiration level 2, promotion to A grade, aspiration level 3. I've used that method to get kids through both school and aspiration in all but he social aspiration, which is the only one I haven't tried yet, and it's definitely possible, just tricky to keep track of!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TotallyJW
Heir: Freelance Comedian
Secondary career: Master of Frogs
Generational Goal: Dependable (oh shit)

Ack, I seem to have forgotten to mention that if you roll Dependable and don't have any actual conventional careers, you should re-roll it! Especially if you're in generation 1, you won't have anything to do. Sorry about that!

Quote:
Originally Posted by liadegrecia
I also have a question, regarding the fulfilled generation goal. Does it apply to helpers, the same way it does to spouses?

I'd copied that one from the sims 3 version of the challenge, where they did not have to, probably because it was put in before helpers were a thing. But you can if you want!

Quote:
Originally Posted by sukibeth
I also rolled a secondary career but I was a little unsure about that. No helpers and no additional income allowed from the Primary Career... so, out of luck?

Right, only spouses and helpers get a secondary career. The tech guru career is starred as untested, so remember that you can do any tasks your work requires you to do for a promotion or daily jobs, though you should try to do them without making money if possible/reasonable(like painting paintings and not selling them isn't reasonable because that's expensive).

Made the following changes:
1. Added selling duplicate penpal postcards to the list of allowed activities, as the income gained is apparently low and it doesn't fit in with anything else right now.
2. Added the option to self-publish books to both branches of the Writer career.
3. Changed "woodworker" career to be "carpenter" just because.
4. Added notes to re-roll the dependable or perfect careers goals if nobody this generation has a conventional career.

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#14 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 5:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigger89
You may have a live-in partner, or even a spouse, but you must move them in from the neighborhood, they may not financially contribute, and must leave the house within 24 hours after the birth of the first child. There's no requirements for why or how they leave, that's up to you, but they must make an exit, not to return to the household until the generation is complete, if ever. Or you could kidnap a bunch of baby daddies, it's up to you and your story! Mixed just means that children will be a mix of biological and adopted, yes. It doesn't have to be an equal mix, but you must have at least one of each type.


In that case I might kidnap a few men for my... usage. Haha, not really in Alexis' nature but hey, why not? I might jsut do the one natural born, and adopt 3 if I can afford it. Otherwise it might be fun to have multiple... donors :D


Quote:
Originally Posted by tigger89
It's really a tricky one! Let me know if the BFF requirement in childhood is too much, I might move it to teen. However, you should be able to build that much relationship while working on the level 4 social skill requirement, so I think it's achievable. I recommend doing the aspiration/school goals in this order: aspiration level 1, promotion to B grade, aspiration level 2, promotion to A grade, aspiration level 3. I've used that method to get kids through both school and aspiration in all but he social aspiration, which is the only one I haven't tried yet, and it's definitely possible, just tricky to keep track of!


Yeah, when I saw it, It looked kinda daunting.. but I really want to try it out! With 4 kids though and a career, haha. I'll try your order for the asp/school goals, it looks like it would be so much easier to manage that way! Thanks for replying!
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#15 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 5:28 AM
Maybe I'll do this once I've gotten a bit more used to the game. I used to love the legacy challenges in the Sims 3, but never finished one due to lack of patience and less than adequate computer hardware. But, times change.
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#16 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 8:46 AM
Random legacy is pretty much the only way I play TS3 so I was really excited to see this and I have already started my legacy!
Founder here.
She is a musician (pregnant in this picture).
And she had twins! A girl and a boy. My first twins in TS4, and they happen during my random legacy.

For my succession laws, I chose matriarchy, traditional, and first born. The first born was a female she gave birth to, so all conditions were met right away.

Marital status: Single
Number of children: 4 (yikes! but children in TS4 are much more fun to play, so I don't mind too much. For an extra challenge I decided all kids should have a different father, but she had twins so it isn't exactly possible so all pregnancies will have a different father instead)
Primary career: Entertainer (Musician)
Generation Goal: Fulfilled
Misc Fun: Hands Off! (I've nearly broken this rule SO MANY TIMES already! But I've caught myself before I did it every time.)

Since gen 2 has been born already, here is what I rolled for gen 2:

Marital status: Single with 2 help (Perfect! Her brother and one other sibling will remain in the house to help out)
Number of children: 1 (Of course, she doesn't need help like her mom did... there's only 1 kid)
Primary career: Secret Agent (Villain)
Secondary career: Painter (Master of the Real) for the brother and Unemployed for sibling #2 or #3.
Generation Goal: Fulfilled (Same as previous generation, but I don't mind. I plan to have the helpers achieve their aspirations as well, for an extra challenge.)
Misc Fun: Mischief Managed (perfect for a villain!)

I'm extremely happy with my first and second generation rolls. They couldn't have worked out much better than they did. I was so scared I would roll "perfect children" in gen 1, haha. I wouldn't have minded it in gen 2 because only 1 child.

Questions:
Entertainer (Musician) - No additional money-making opportunities. *
Is it okay to play music for tips or write lyrics for profit if it is required for the creativity/musical genius aspiration? I will keep it restricted to only what it necessary for the aspiration.

I had a glitch before in which my sim went to work, her baby went to daycare, but when she came back from work the baby did not return. I could only age them up by clicking the bassinet. If this glitch happens again and I can't figure out how to get them to come back, I'm assuming it is okay to age them up early, right?
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#17 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 9:36 AM
How should i handle a situation where I have too many children (twins / Triplets). do I raise them? do I kick them out? should I kill them off? or do I fail the Challenge?

if I should keep them, are they subject to the Random, Perfect Children, Dependable, Deadbeat Parents Goals?
Test Subject
#18 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 10:57 AM
Welp, here goes nothing!
My Random Legacy, Generation ONE
HEIR NAME: Olive Plinkett
Helpers: Ophelia and Oliver (her mother and father)

A: Marital Status
24: Mixed Single w/ 2 Help
B: Number of children
6: 2

C/D: CAREERS
HEIR
Conventional Career (2)
1: Entertainer(Musician) *

HELPER 1
Unconventional Career (4)
4: Gardener

HELPER 2
Unconventional Career (7)
8: Freelance Comedian

E: GENERATION GOAL
4: Dependable - Not horrible! I've only got one conventional career!

F: RANDOM FUN
8: Fixer Upper - oh goodness I actually really like this one.

Olive and her helpers (parents)
Olive!

I rolled her parents' traits randomly...her mum is evil, lazy, and an art lover. Her dad is insane, outgoing, and clumsy.

So this is going to be fun!
Test Subject
#19 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 2:52 PM
You guys are getting some interesting rolls xD A lot of singles!

I actually started posting for this Legacy here, I'm actually having fun making it all pretty! And it helps to keep track of the generation goals etc for each generation as they're born.

Alexis just had a baby girl, so Gen 2 has just started and here are my rolls:

Marital Status: Single
Children: 2
Primary Career: Freelance Author
Fun: Homemade – May not get quick meals from the fridge or order pizza, and may only cook meals with ingredients if all ingredients are present.
Generation Goal: Collector – Your heir, spouse, helpers and children must complete and display one of the collections.

I'm happy because perhaps some money can be made, being an author, and some building can be done! Or even moving (if that's allowed), but that's a long way away yet. Alexis has 3 more children to spawn/adopt and raise before her goal is complete!

I still don't know how or WHEN I'm going to decide on an heir, how do you guys usually do it? I'm gonna have another look at those succession laws, but I'd still like to know when/how you guys decide? :D
Gosh I'm having too much fun already, someone shoot me lol
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#20 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 6:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lilliandulcia
Questions:
Entertainer (Musician) - No additional money-making opportunities. *
Is it okay to play music for tips or write lyrics for profit if it is required for the creativity/musical genius aspiration? I will keep it restricted to only what it necessary for the aspiration.

I strongly suspect that the musician path will require you to do both of those things, though I haven't verified it yet. Keep it restricted to what's necessary for the aspiration and the career for now, and let me know how it works out, so we can get the career tasks updated in the rules.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilliandulcia
Questions: I had a glitch before in which my sim went to work, her baby went to daycare, but when she came back from work the baby did not return. I could only age them up by clicking the bassinet. If this glitch happens again and I can't figure out how to get them to come back, I'm assuming it is okay to age them up early, right?

Yeah. If your game bugs out, do whatever you have to do to fix it. If it happens again, you might want to try traveling to another lot and returning, as I've found that helps to reset sims that have gotten stuck at work or school, or even try the "resetsim baby name" cheat.

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Originally Posted by DCSim
How should i handle a situation where I have too many children (twins / Triplets). do I raise them? do I kick them out? should I kill them off? or do I fail the Challenge?

if I should keep them, are they subject to the Random, Perfect Children, Dependable, Deadbeat Parents Goals?

Whoops, I think I forgot to write that part of the rules, haha. If you go over the number of children accidentally(by having multiples), you can't have any more children, and you have to keep them. The number of children you have to raise that generation is essentially increased to the number you now have. Please don't kill your extras, that's sad.

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Originally Posted by Eremis
I still don't know how or WHEN I'm going to decide on an heir, how do you guys usually do it? I'm gonna have another look at those succession laws, but I'd still like to know when/how you guys decide? :D

In sims 3, I always decided randomly when I rolled for the number of children(so I'd roll and get 2 kids, then roll 1d2 to decide which would be the heir). Before that rule was a thing, I'd usually pick the youngest child, because I don't like having elders lurking around the house for too long into the new generation. In sims 3 they'd always just be messing with the fridge, or playing the computer while other sims are trying to sleep, and in sims 4 the new thing seems to be walking in on people in the bathroom to give them hugs. Which is pretty messed up.

My sims blog
Currently playing: Katran Random Legacy
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#21 Old 14th Sep 2014 at 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tigger89
In sims 3, I always decided randomly when I rolled for the number of children(so I'd roll and get 2 kids, then roll 1d2 to decide which would be the heir). Before that rule was a thing, I'd usually pick the youngest child, because I don't like having elders lurking around the house for too long into the new generation. In sims 3 they'd always just be messing with the fridge, or playing the computer while other sims are trying to sleep, and in sims 4 the new thing seems to be walking in on people in the bathroom to give them hugs. Which is pretty messed up.

That's quite funny, because I currently have 2 old ladies who drop by to visit (of their own accord) on almost a daily basis, and they act like they're babysitters if the Mommy is out at work. One old lady has taken to reading a book on the bed in the room the bassinet is in, and when the baby needs something she immediately puts the book away and goes to deal with it. The other old lady usually tidies the house up. I think it's quite sweet.
I had an old guy walk in to the bathroom when a female sim was peeing, he looked shocked, went outside and stood so close to the door that when he leant forward in the embarrassed animation his face clipped through the door, it looked wrong on quite a few levels. Made me laugh and I wasn't fast enough to recover from that to get a screenshot.

What do you mean, 'get a life'! I'm a gamer, I have many lives.
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#22 Old 15th Sep 2014 at 12:35 AM
Generation 2 has been born! Meet Sabrina Katran, female and naturally born, so therefore eligible to be the heir. We'll see if she has a brother or a sister soon, and then I'll be able to see who's going to be the heir.

Some interesting rolls here, especially considering how generation 1 was rolled.
Marriage: Second Chance (ok that's always a fun one)
# of Children: 2 (again?)
Heir: Writer(Author) (like mother like daughter I guess, I wonder what will make her choose the author track over journalism?)
Partner #1: Freelance Comedian
Partner #2: Criminal(Boss) (hahaha why're you gonna ditch the comedian and marry the crime lord, future heir?)
Deadbeat Parents (well yeah, probably especially after you start hanging out with that criminal guy...)
Hobbyist (can the hobby be "making bad life decisions"?)

No, I'm still not sure if I'm going to blog an actual coherent story or not. I'll decide once the kids are old enough to start having personalities, I'll see if they speak to me enough to make written characters out of them.

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Originally Posted by ChickieTeeta
That's quite funny, because I currently have 2 old ladies who drop by to visit (of their own accord) on almost a daily basis, and they act like they're babysitters if the Mommy is out at work. One old lady has taken to reading a book on the bed in the room the bassinet is in, and when the baby needs something she immediately puts the book away and goes to deal with it. The other old lady usually tidies the house up. I think it's quite sweet.

How did you get the baby to stay home while the parents are at work? Mine always poof away to "daycare" whenever no adults are home.

My sims blog
Currently playing: Katran Random Legacy
Scholar
#23 Old 15th Sep 2014 at 12:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigger89
How did you get the baby to stay home while the parents are at work? Mine always poof away to "daycare" whenever no adults are home.

There are 2 "helpers", one has an unconventional career so is always at home if the other 2 sims are at work, I was actually debating whether or not to use the ask to leave command on the old ladies, but I really like them =D and who knows if that behavior will ever happen again.

What do you mean, 'get a life'! I'm a gamer, I have many lives.
Test Subject
#24 Old 15th Sep 2014 at 4:38 AM Last edited by squeakyneeky : 15th Sep 2014 at 6:18 AM.
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Originally Posted by tigger89
I strongly suspect that the musician path will require you to do both of those things, though I haven't verified it yet. Keep it restricted to what's necessary for the aspiration and the career for now, and let me know how it works out, so we can get the career tasks updated in the rules.


My founder is only in the beginning stages of the entertainer career, but there is one level that requires you to either perform comedy routines or to perform songs for tips (100 simoleons IIRC). Not sure about writing lyrics for profit but I suspect that it will be required for the later stages of the musician track.


edit 1: You have to write and sell jingles to progress in the musician career as well!
edit 2: whoops I forgot "mixed" meant a mix of adopted and natural born, not mixed genders. SILLY ME.
Test Subject
#25 Old 15th Sep 2014 at 10:02 AM
I just got my Gen 2 heir to YA status!

I rolled:
Marital status: Single
Children: 2
Career: Freelance programmer
Goals: Perfect career
Misc: Health nut

For a few screenshots of Gen 1, click here . For Kelvin, my heir's, closeup as a YA, click here.
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